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Here’s the reason his Patrons seem to tick up after the monthly fall. He’s still drawing newbies, in this case a severely depressed and possibly suicidal one.
Odds on Stephanie not knowing a single thing about Thailand, hookers, threatening suicide and lawsuits and finally succeeding getting wifey to agree to an open marriage?
None of our business? Just let this woman just off the JW bus becoming dependent on Evans and his philosophy on life?
Jesus Christ.
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Indecent Proposal: you have to spend the night with one to win $1,000,000 or €1,000,000. Choose.
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I have said it a number of times, if it had been an affair, the community would not have known.
His behaviour after the fact also highlights another ongoing issue with him: honesty. Wally’s (JW Thoughts) video is an essential must-watch in the Evans saga. For no good reason Lloyd straight up lied to him about deleting a comment. And then he gaslit him despite Wally being right about the deleted comment and offering proof.
I can see no benefit in having such a disingenuous and dishonest person being first on the mic when something WT related comes to the local news.
The circumstances surrounding his sex life were a symptom of an reoccurring problem of him essentially being dishonest, deceitful and then outright hostile to anyone who called it out. It’s amazing how badly he mismanaged this crisis. He’s been quiet lately but again the cheque is becoming due with regards to his expediting his litigation threats and it’s not something he can simply drop.
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Question Why didn't she defend Kim ,when she was being .how do you say that in english, attack cyberbullied , phishing?
I’m sure Lloyd guilted her by constantly ragging on how she provided all this info and proof to Kim and others. Saying she gave the “haters” ammo to attack “our family”. I bet she was in a state of shock after the livestream like many others were but to answer your question, her loyalty is to her husband. Typical Lloyd in that he desires a wife out of the 1950’s stay at home model but with a sex drive taken right out of Moulin Rouge.
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I agree, I'm sure she helped spend the money and go on vacations. She's spending the fruits of the "grift" so she's part of it.
She’s also stayed by his side during all the controversies including COC copyright, constant examples of him bullying other people and actively sabotaging other activists. She was there when Lloyd left her in the lobby with a newborn so he could grab a podium at Hassan’s event. She knew that if it weren’t for Marc Latham helping her up the stairs, she would have been forced to wait in the lobby with the infant in the pram.
But when her husband starts hurling abuse and threats at Marc, she does nothing. She even had the nerve to speak on camera about the “haters” and how stressful it was for her family to endure that. All the while knowing her husband had in most cases instigated the cases of “haters” making videos and/or comments about him.
Now that she’s on the ass end of her husband’s abusive bullshit she decides it’s time to be silent? COUNTLESS attempts to contact her by ex JWs who were acquainted with her have been made since he left for Thailand. She’s refused almost every attempt at counsel and has insinuated that things are fine and even hinted that things might work out between them.
Some have raised the possibility of taking up a collection for her and the girls. Now this is pure folly, especially when she’s keeping it close to the vest as to what her plans are with Evans. The only support that should be offered is counsel. If anyone purchases her and the girls plane tickets to see you, you should know that Evans is following and will hijack the entire fucking thing and make it into yet another family holiday.
This is frankly quite sickening when you stop to think that the exJW community has pumped so much money into the Evans family that it easily overtakes all financial support offered and accepted by the likes of Ray and Cynthia Franz, Barbara Anderson, Randy Watters and other Bethel whistleblowers COMBINED. Ray personally wrote back every person who wrote to him. He was known to invite complete strangers into his home for hospitality and lodging and refused all attempts to reimburse him. Lloyd can’t even restrain himself from insulting people who ask him for a link on one of his own videos. Lloyd not only accepts “green handshakes” but encourages them and eagerly let’s the community fund his trips.
Dijana knows all this better than any of us could. I think she’s a collaborator more so than a victim. She can put an end to this right here and right now but she won’t. And you all know the reason why.
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It's been a while since I've been to this thread. But, I thought they were divorcing. This was confirmed by Lloyd, and others, I thought.
This is why Evans is known to be crafty with his words. For someone with a decent command of the English language, he intentionally left things vague. For example, after being caught trying to enter a London dating event, Evans countered that they were “separated, not yet divorced”. The way this was worded was meant to convey the appearance that they were getting divorced but this is not actually what he said. “Not yet divorced” could mean that a divorce is planned. It can also mean that the ultimate decision to take the step of divorce has not been made yet.
Now look back to the context of his announcement. He was caught on a dating site when his last communication on the matter was that he was trying to save his marriage. This is how he operates. He said what he felt he needed to say to fight the accusation he was cheating on his wife again. He effectively took his wedding ring off to provide an excuse for his behaviour.
Now look to his 2-3 week holiday on the coast in late June early July. He only made mention of spending it with his girls, but Dijana was there. I’d be betraying a few confidences by telling you how I know. I also seriously doubt she’s leaving those girls with him for that long of a period. One of the final pics he posted of that trip was of him and the girls with his wedding ring clearly visible. Only reason he puts it back on is to send her a message it wasn’t over for him or perhaps it’s not over and he finally got his wish of being allowed in an open marriage where he decided when he’s with her or not.
He’s not letting her go and is pulling out all the tricks that manipulative people do when they wish to coerce others to bend to their will. She has fallen for it for years and evidently is still falling for it. As much as it’s been said that Lloyd never changed his JW mindset, it’s abundantly clear that in many ways Dijana still has the mentality of a pioneer sister who wanted a husband and family.
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as long as Dijana wants to keep Evans as her husband, there’s nothing more we can do
This isn’t about saving Dijana. Same reason we aren’t here to “save JWs”. They either get it or they don’t. You can bring a horse to water but cannot force it to drink. If all that has happened still isn’t enough for her to wake up, then seriously, fuck her. She deserves Evans and all the consequences which follow.
Dijana gave all those private emails, screenshots and photos to Kim and PB, made calls to exJWs when Lloyd left her, and this was before Evans made the livestream about how he couldn’t control his penis with the exception being when he’s with his wife who did not satisfy him. He humiliated her in front of thousands of people. It’s as if she told multiple parties her house was on fire and when advised to get out immediately, she hung up the phone saying she’ll think about it. And “oh yeah, I spoke to Lloyd and the house really isn’t on fire, I’m just smelling smoke. All good here!” If she stays with him then her husband was right about one thing: Dijana Evans is a head-fuck.
She has a tonne of financial reasons to stay in that marriage and I’m not buying that she’s ready to move on into a life of poverty with two young girls and two elderly parents to care for. That’s a tight situation she is in, but:
IT IS NOT THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OF VULNERABLE FORMER JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES TO TAKE CARE OF THE EVANS FAMILY & HER PARENTS BY CONTINUING TO SEND A BLANK CHEQUE EVERY MONTH TO LLOYD EVANS.
The grift has been exposed and will continue to be exposed. That’s what we’re doing here. He can make all the videos he wants but the grift ends here in 2022.
By the end of the year, if not sooner.
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Excellent video about the trauma bond. I believe it’s an exceptionally worse one for her being that she’s stuck between two worlds - her JW parents and exJWs - all of whom have strong feelings about her husband one way or another. She seems to have no secular friends as Kim alluded to.
Lloyd wants her to continue as his titular wife and mother of his children, but it’s clear he wants sex elsewhere whether it’s through sex workers or women he can find through dating apps and events. “Open marriage” could mean different things to different people, but in Lloyd’s definition the sex with her is either limited or non-existent.
So he does his thing and at a certain interval or if he feels she’s pulling away, he swoops back in and does something nice for them and intended to bring back memories of good times in the past. Their family holiday last month was an example of that. He made sure to do things as a foursome and probably put things into his daughter’s minds such as “isn’t it great to have daddy back? If it’s OK with mummy, daddy would like to come stay at home for awhile to be with his family”.
Lloyd knows he’s a hideous looking fatbody neckbeard and likely has plenty of online rejections and post first date ghosting. It irritates him to no end that Dijana is the best he could have ever hoped for and the pickings are going to get worse as he edges towards 50.
It’s going to be difficult for her to break this cycle. Like jumping into cold water, it’s best just to jump in instead of testing the water with your toes. But it needs to be done and she should understand this by now. She can’t continue to let him back in thinking it’s going to be different this time.
I read those emails he sent to her. I’ve seen his attempts at dating. She has to have the self esteem of a bug right now and she really shouldn’t. It’s him who should be worried about his prospects outside the marriage, not her. The sooner she understands this the better it will be for her and her girls.
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I may be misunderstanding you, but I thought Croatia was her home country. So wouldn't that make him the geographically and financially isolated one, giving her the upper hand?
When he was dependent upon her translation work, she had the upper hand and it probably bothered him to no end.
But what I mean is the common assumption is that they live at her parent’s home IN Sisak. But they actually live in a small village outside Sisak. He at least up until recently lived in central Zagreb. She has two small children to care for and I’m not even sure she has a car or at least a dependable one. Being that neither of them have worked a secular job in years, it is Lloyd that holds the strings on any finances they have with his grift.
Approaching 40 with two small children in an isolated location is not a desirable situation to be in no matter how you look at it. It’s his only means by which he holds any sway over her and I’m sure he’s moved all the funds into his personal account now they are “separated”.
Ggg
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For what it’s worth I don’t think he’s permanently moved out. His msg from the Zagreb group said he had the flat until the 20th of last month and didn’t sound permanent. My guess is it was a trial separation from 1 April until the end of June.
For him to pay the rent on a flat in central Zagreb, plus a new spot for the bunker after losing over 400 patrons is quite a risky expansion.
I strongly feel his wife is very much struggling with his mood swings and ever changing plans. For someone that isolated both geographically, financially and emotionally don’t underestimate his continued sway over her.
